Thursday, September 4, 2008

Me, bitching about missionaries and shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmj-_BB6zWY "Bad Manna" part one, please do follow up with parts 2 and 3. It will take about 30 min of your time, but in my opinion should be a wake up call to both Christians and human rights activists. I have found a new subject that i am passionate about, that is the behavior of "Christians" when they are in the mission field. There is another site.... http://www.christianaggression.org/tactics.php Which deals with the "Evangelical agenda" in Asia and beyond, which is to destroy cultures for Jesus and to bring on the second coming.

 I had never known why, but even as a child i never supported missionaries. It was as if my gut did not trust or believe in their work. And recently my gut reactions have been justified with knowledge. The government of India is working to pass Anti-conversion Laws, because the missionaries use bribery, and force, and tare up families to get converts. They promise miracles and they build schools and hospitals that they make the people pay for in conversions and hatred of their neighbors , in the name of Christ. I think the videos speak for themselves better than i can.

 *Taking about 4:20 minutes to compose my thoughts, while you watch the video and peruse the site*

 Coming Into *real* time, my time, IZM time.

 *promises myself that i will edit later...really i will. *

 I, of course, have not just gotten back *here* from watching my posted videos. Personally i have come back from joking with my daughter, and thinking a millions thoughts about what i would like to talk about tonight.....and having some MAJOR difficulty with figuring out what to call this piece. Even now i am dissatisfied with the title. 

It is not poetic ...( if it is then assume i achieved bliss).....and neither is the dark stream of human disgust i feel for the actions of humanity. And this time , in particular the humanity within Christianity. But also in my rambling mind ( hey doc ,is this "racing thoughts", do i get a check mark in that box? label me a 8.) There is also the *reality* of my children still wake, that means meaningful necessary distractions that can sometimes be very hard to labor against. And the thoughts arguing that they are the ones most important to be what i want to mention. And the other thoughts. but we don't talk about them *mwwwaahhhhh* I really need to meditate and come back to you....... * goes to fucking editing until my mind gets straight again.*

*woohoo i figured out how to work spell check.....(hey doc, am i fucking autistic?)

First, do any of my readers know that argument against the Bible that goes, If GOD wrote it, shouldn't it have had correct science, and information compatible with current knowledge?

I agree, shouldn't the word of god include wisdom that keeps on giving.....and knowledge that yields knowledge? Should it Not ?....

Well my atheist friends i have found it........the word of god...........well maybe parts of it.

Wouldn't you know it, god has written a holy book. At least parts of a holy book. I mean there is allot of myth....but the parts he wrote have knowledge in them yet to be debunked...i suggest you go seek it out.

We're talking electricity in 300 bce. Iron working about then too. Mathematics that we depend on today. Astronomy that agrees with modern understanding. These Holy books have it.

They are called the Vedas. But well, I have to admit, when I picked one up to actually read it, it looked like a bunch of hymns and long winded praises and names of god. Ill have to research this slowly.

But I have seen documentaries. and um i do study yoga......

Look around you tube. Fascinating stuff. and i got to wondering......

SO maybe the Bible's god did not answer to those parameters, but apparently the Hindu Brahman did. Do you consent to conversion? Or is there really another issue you have with the entity hitherto known as God?

Of course, you may fairly argue that the men who wrote the words created the knowledge.

I would say they merely discovered it. Should we lose all our information, and forget all that we knew, our minds, after such a reboot would start by studying his environment. As we did, we would again study the movement of stars, learn about growing food, discover counting and so forth and so on. The people post Apocalypse will someday possess the same knowledge we have now. Though it may take a different evaluation-al approach.

This is discovery of that which already is, and not new knowledge. New to us perhaps but existing form beyond our perspective.

You may also fairly argue, that a god who can shit stars really does not need to be worshiped.

I say.......LMAO........he sure does..... i mean lets pray he misses us.

From here the argument degenerates into a volley of there is a god no there is not, well religions are false, no they are not. Oh yeah well, Christians are evil, those weren't real Christians. and so forth and so on that keeps you people happy blaming others.

It is a distraction. In Hinduism you don't even have to be a believer...god left science in his afterglow. Truth exists.get over it. Why should truth not also exist as or in mankind?

It is this big what if that keeps us going.

I have read a comment from a stupid non Hindu about some violence happening in India. He said. "well if that's what Hinduism teaches , you can keep it." Only i am sure this man was much more vile in his comment.

this makes my brain crack. See i read their scripture. I enjoy life because of the things it taught me. Where do you get off judging a religion by its practitioners anyway. They are only human.

It is ourselves we must judge. If you are so harsh with them, will you apply that toward yourself.....how well do you follow your logical creed? DO you love? DO you believe in Justice?

It is only ourselves that we must perfect to our liking. The blame does not fall upon another.

Even if we blame god, the logical end of god is our own reflection.

SO i am so sorry atheists......i mean it sucks for you too, at least you hope your consciousness is merely electric current that dies with you.

that freaks me out man.........i just * know* consciousness goes on.and i can chose how i pretend it. But to each their own.

*praise Jesus*

Those fucking missionaries......

It really is something for a liberal hearted person like me to feel in my gut......"Christians are evil"

Those Christians are being evil.

And it is the Pentecostals, the Ass of god and the Baptists.........Those damned healing preachers......i fucking hate them.

But don't let my biased persuade you either way on the issue of their behavior. And you judgment as to weather or not it is something you can support.

I truly wish Christians back home in the pews would really check out their own missionaries.

I have heard a christian argue that "we should not pray for peace on people who are unsaved. Because then they would never know that they needed Jesus."

I suppose that sounds right to many. How far the Dhrama has dropped. How far the Depravity of common sense.

I thought Jesus taught us differently. If the world had more natural peace, wouldn't it be easier to win them to Christ? If the troubled souls where comforted where they are in life, wouldn't it be easier to speak of god loving them? If the hungry where fed and kept safe wouldn't they already know god is, with out you ever having to speak a word about Jesus?

Oh ....got you..........some of you are attached to that name.and would not dream of not speaking it. (oh shit here comes the doctrines of demons ablashfeeeming da lawd.)

Listen.

If you true prayed to Jesus for peace to your enemies, and you are also willing to make yourselves peaceable and it spreads.....isn't that *work* Jesus doing? (yes) ok...Does Jesus announce himself? (um, no)....Then why do you need to? Let the Holy Ghost speak, let those who ask you about the peace within, to see your proclamations of Jesus.

Some may fairly argue that simply isn't the case in Christianity, and *they comfortingly banter* it is not apparent in any other religion. All i can say is does any of the notion of goodness exist in your actions? How can we make that kindness spread to others? Cant even Atheist's chose loving and choose less their greed?

This is because something is dead within. The apathy toward peace and good will is not because of a religion anyway. And it is not because of a god delusion ....well maybe it is because of a god delusion...that is an ego biased warped psychosis of doing things in the name of god and being like unto Cain in your walk and understanding of god.....anyway....

But if what is causing our blindness to just being truth seeking people and being right toward each other, is a god-delusion, then it follows there must be a god-correctly. I do not think that a the opposite of god-delusion is atheist.

If we are deluded about god then our religions and our practices of life will bear their result. But then if we deny god exists and life according to our more Noble consciousness and out lives bear the results of that. We still have a god-delusion. Our thoughts about god that we no longer believe in, that we are liberated from are still delusional. Your merely discovered that those ideas where wrong and halted inquiry. Your ignoring those old ways of thought is no measure of how less deluded you are but a measure of things discarded. God-truth might be discovered as you study your self, how you operate, and how far your mind can expand and understand. AS you discover truth, you come to understand that things we associate with the vague primal notion of god. And that there is a very fine line between self and god. Each are as expansive as the other.

If you lose the imagination of god and absolutely have no clue about this mystical shit i am laying down ok ok..i hear you brother......

You have the essence of life...your existence can be what ever you make it. It all matters on how you think. If you think with bad intent, bad reality manifests.

opps i was rambling about god again...what was i talking about before.....

*pauses to go chat with a friend*

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