I understand the quoting sources such as wikipedia or comments would not be acceptable in "formal" debate. But I am common and un-properly educated in the schools of personal observation, research , observation and gleaning tidbits of understanding from the understandings i surround myself with.
And this blog is my place to shadow box where it is fine to debate and discuss the wiki's which are a fair representation of the collections of mind's titbit's. IE. I argue with what is "common Knowledge" As the typical debates tend to baffle the casual observer with knowledge they are years and many dollars removed from.
I have been reading " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis "
When you get to the early life section of this article the begins presenting "evidence" in terms of "Suggest" "some research" and what i vaguely relate to guess work. Let's look at it.
""" Evidence of the early appearance of life comes from the Isua super crustal belt in Western Greenland and from similar formations in the nearby Akilia Islands. Carbon entering into rock formations has a concentration of elemental δ13C of about −5.5, where because of a preferential biotic uptake of 12C, biomass has a δ13C of between −20 and −30. These isotopic fingerprints are preserved in the sediments, and Mojzis has used this technique to suggest that life existed on the planet already by 3.85 billion years ago.[27] Lazcano and Miller (1994) suggest that the rapidity of the evolution of life is dictated by the rate of recirculating water through mid-ocean submarine vents. Complete recirculation takes 10 million years, thus any organic compounds produced by then would be altered or destroyed by temperatures exceeding 300 °C (572 °F). """"
I am cirten my point of view is not clear yet to the reader. But it seems to me when the author points to the evidence, he is pointing to a rock. In this rock it shows "time".
ok yes that information is in the rock but since you have not observed 10 million years you arrived at this evidence though math, counting the layers etc.
Please bear with me. I understand that science does grow and evolve so forth and so on.
But sometimes i see people giving all these evidences but when you look at the evidences they are admittedly guess work.
They say the theory of gravity is not comprehended completely. We cannot be authoritative that we have understood the workings of a cell. For one idea there is another.. and each idea does have evidence that suggests thus and such.
AM i off base here?
intelligent guess work.
My other question is ' is there a science that collaborates all the various sciences in to congruity?
and When someone says in rebuttal to the creationist "They think that the laws they observe here have to be true for everywhere" ...does he not eat crow? As science is baffled when the laws of physics break down at the singularity. Oh i bet the person was thinking about the bible.
Here is a tidbit from to and from the comments section of this: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13615-evolution-myths-everything-is-an-adaptation.html
The Person's interpretation of the scientist says: " The scientist says 'this is as good as good as i can get, this theory. Everyone else, whack at it like a pinata and lets see if we can make it better, or disprove my theory and come up with a better one based on evidence.' "
The Agnostic answers "Sounds good and fair. I take issue that your evidence is very like when we look at the sun and watch it move, and then base the science of navigation on it.
And you will only change your mind if i can come up with a study that suggests a flaw in your theory. Or a study that suggests something of my own theory.
But i read in to this remark a little more since to my observation much of what we "know" is arrived at by abstract means, and the Stephen-Urey experiment has yet to create intelligent life, that what you really need is evidence yourselves, you have theories that contradict and sciences that clash. One side of science creating ways to preserve life and another that seeks better ways to exterminate it.
So basically you are asking your would be debater to prove your theory then dis-prove it; or to fail to prove your theory and suggest it is flawed. But science has not proven any of its theories... the theory of relativity is not yet the LAW of relativity. '
Anyway....
The person's interpretation of the intelligent designer says: " The intelligent designer says 'This is how things are made by men on earth. Therefore the universe must be subject to the same laws, so someone intelligent -by man's definition of that word.- must have made the universe.' "
The Agnostic groans and rolls her eyes. "How correct they are."
" alright dude.... great over use of the word "man" to make the ID'er sound all brain washy. And Doesn't physics expect that their laws would be true in the universe? I am sure they might have a theoretical science out there working with "imaginary digits" (please read Stephen Hawkins history of time)
Anyway......
The person to respond to his interpretation of the ID'er says: " There's not really any arguing with that or analyzing it to see if it holds water, because it's based on a closely held philosophical belief, as well as to some extent a desire for that to be true."
The Agnostic sympathises. That must really suck. How many mitosis's have you observed? in order for you to do anything but accept with blind faith your science information you would never be finished with college. And you would , if you look hard enough always find questions.
I understand, being finite humans the mind cannot take in all that knowledge. And the testing procedures would be impossible. i sure wouldn't want to live always proving stuff before i can enjoy it in simplicity. And most humans at some point decide their understanding complete enough to merit FAITH in the seeming general direction of the EVIDENCE.
What spark is it in ourselves that seeks to intelligently design our worlds? And Intelligently reverse engineer the materials at his disposal to see if he can make it for himself?
Is that self reflective and outwardly expressive spark something of divinity? Something of the origin's making?
Friday, May 15, 2009
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Evolution vs Scientific er "intelligent" Design
These are my comments about the Film "Expelled no Intelligence Allowed"
I had never realised how very like the dark ages of yore we modern humans are. I cannot understand why we wont agree that there are some questions we haven't the intelligence nor information enough to discuss with naught but awed curiosity and theory.
We are only able to be conscious of the effect of the "creation" we can only observe the mechanics of the things we see and think, and know only the parts of it and the idea of it that inspire our vision.
What i take form this film is the awareness of how most arguments are won by the attrition of ridicule. Arguments and violence comes from being too proud to admit fallibility. Yet ... to be able to be a person of wisdom and harmony would be truly infallible demeanor For it will always be revising itself and discarding the pettiness which we call Logical.
SO the next time i see amature yet verbally faithful little sci-Nazi's battering a poor faithful soul saying " so do you believe in a child killing god?" That man can answer no but ultimately you do... do you believe in natural selection? How about human assisted natural selection?
Ehh i'd still some how lose the argument by...equivocating.. god bless you.
For alittle clarity to my individual point of view... and perhaps other ways of defending it ..the following articles support me... (er not directly... i am just doing that "right guys" human thing.)
http://www.objectiveness.com/expelled/
OK... now my audience will be fully pre-indoctrinated and amiable to receive the following brainwashing.
Well isn't that what they call it when a person educated themselves in a cirten opinion and try to make a personal case to defend themselves or define themselves?
Lately i have been feel quite hostile to ward reality....yea silly business , i know.
i get inexplicably angry like i have been manipulated into premature surrender, when i see the So called Logical and Rational side using the same rhyme and meter of white supremacists, feminists, Muslims and atheists.
I feel beaten down... over whelmed with other's false assurances, where i am trying to question. Or where my inquiry would like to tend toward the mystical (ie acceptibily unkown)
I hate it that i loose the argument when i say that human beings are not logical.. we are also creatures who define themselves emotionally and make some decisions on blind impulse. We are both right and left brained and make our errors in comprehension by suppressing one over the other.
Males have always battered down the compassion of the Females. They have killed the female form of bravery and power and strength and intelligence, in favor of their own.
Simple psychotic vanity.
I mean if i went around applying to atheists their own "methods" .. if i could... make arguments against men vs women and batter them in to debilitation... just by shouting So testosterone is a blight on this world. You believe in killing others to win an argument. how logical is that?....
But ... due to the irrational vain side those people wish to ignore they would explode in rage... well justified rage because, well, my forced opinion would be wrong. But they will not realise how they are when they believe strongly that they are correct.
I am also trying to keep myself aware how different we are from each other. How we have our individual realities. And what seems clear to me can be completely obscured to another, many others. And of course vise versa.
But i do know this. There inevitably will always be a counter argument or a counter method to every which way there ever will be.
Knowledge will never declare it's end, but wisdom can be ignored completely.
I was thinking, about "expelled" in juxtaposition with Gelieo. How perfect. Against newton. You get the point don't you...
My point is that those men where correct... and even though their little ideas have been improved upon and clarified.... and in most cases complexioned.......they where correct and fought like hell to just get their observation or question explored legitimately.
So if make me bitter to hear self assured Atheists saying " if they discovered any kind of proof for god or the flood or what have you... we ALL would know, they would be shouting it from all the media." well NO DIPSHIT... they will not. How oftian does a human being consider new information. It show blind trust in the leader to think such information would be treated fairly , it CLEARLY is not. How oftian does humanity suppress individuality and try to enforce control and specific idealism? And you would have the faith that truth and fairness are at liberty to public validation?
SO if history repeats, statistically speaking the Intelligent Designers are on to something. We with the foresight that hindsight can offer can just about BET there is an "other" story to what we are.
I don't know college for this... i need... *cringe* logic.
People who HAVE REAL EDUCATIONS.... wrote books that i have read... and in them i learned that major philosophers and even Ricard Dawkins, in his book, taught me that there really is not end to an non falsifiable argument. There is no real end to the debate on god and It's proper interpretation. And there is ALWAYS ignorance.
eh...
someone please explain to me what Equivocating is....
I one made ... or failed miserably at making a point concerning the religion bashing being a red herring the issue that needs looked at is .... here is my quote.. i would not want to be accused of trying to recast my argument, or paraphrasing ...(this perfectly logical stuff is ridiculously difficult)
( i responded to this video, which is an example of the irritating argument fr0m ridiculousness that so reminds me of bigotry and fascism) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBdAHVk2feE
""""" (1) i am an avid reader of comments. I was observing the exchange between izar and darkangel.... and Dark's "debilitating" question was..." do you pay taxes that support war?" as if that makes it so he doesn't have to answer about if he believes god killed babies. And my brains keeps screaming out; but... IF DARK lives in a society, then even he is debilitated. Because we ALL PAY TAXES . therefore we all support the evils of our armies and governments.
(2) i was just waiting for someone else to bring that up. how can you accuse me of supporting the evil army, when you also pay taxes that go to support the evil army? SO the question still remains, did god kill babies? yes.. and izar could have turned it on dark by asking," do you rebel against the evil rules, have you lobbied to end evil? " etc. Face it folks humanity is not very interested in ending needless suffering. so we are all as bad as the baby killing god. Do we believe in OURSELVES?
mattb521 Reply Spam
"Face it folks humanity is not very interested in ending needless suffering. "
The most we are guilty of is omission. This is COMPLETELY different than going out of your way to kill babies and kids, stop equivocating.
"so we are all as bad as the baby killing god. Do we believe in OURSELVES?"
straw man due to your false premise. """"""
I would really like to know why i am so stupid i can't best this. "Strawman" why? Because humans are NOT blood thrisy violent evolved apes? "Strawman", because the people in power really DOOOOO care about the public well being and freedom?
Oh yeah and are you saying that non-religious men have NEVER gone out to DELIBERATLY kill babies (and towns and ideas and pretty wemon) ? Are you saying that murder is NOT a normal feature of human psychological and genetic make up and history?
If the atheist says back..." no murder is not a normal part of us. some people are defective for various reasons. " you can answer back.. "wait, isnt that the no true scotsman argument?"
LOL i had never noticed how their own methods could be turned around. (by them i mean the common person who goes about beating up belivers with their psudeo-educated indoctrinated rhetoric)
eh... i am wrong i just know i am....
they so are they i just cant frame the argument that will be heard.
Izm.
I had never realised how very like the dark ages of yore we modern humans are. I cannot understand why we wont agree that there are some questions we haven't the intelligence nor information enough to discuss with naught but awed curiosity and theory.
We are only able to be conscious of the effect of the "creation" we can only observe the mechanics of the things we see and think, and know only the parts of it and the idea of it that inspire our vision.
What i take form this film is the awareness of how most arguments are won by the attrition of ridicule. Arguments and violence comes from being too proud to admit fallibility. Yet ... to be able to be a person of wisdom and harmony would be truly infallible demeanor For it will always be revising itself and discarding the pettiness which we call Logical.
SO the next time i see amature yet verbally faithful little sci-Nazi's battering a poor faithful soul saying " so do you believe in a child killing god?" That man can answer no but ultimately you do... do you believe in natural selection? How about human assisted natural selection?
Ehh i'd still some how lose the argument by...equivocating.. god bless you.
For alittle clarity to my individual point of view... and perhaps other ways of defending it ..the following articles support me... (er not directly... i am just doing that "right guys" human thing.)
http://www.objectiveness.com/expelled/
OK... now my audience will be fully pre-indoctrinated and amiable to receive the following brainwashing.
Well isn't that what they call it when a person educated themselves in a cirten opinion and try to make a personal case to defend themselves or define themselves?
Lately i have been feel quite hostile to ward reality....yea silly business , i know.
i get inexplicably angry like i have been manipulated into premature surrender, when i see the So called Logical and Rational side using the same rhyme and meter of white supremacists, feminists, Muslims and atheists.
I feel beaten down... over whelmed with other's false assurances, where i am trying to question. Or where my inquiry would like to tend toward the mystical (ie acceptibily unkown)
I hate it that i loose the argument when i say that human beings are not logical.. we are also creatures who define themselves emotionally and make some decisions on blind impulse. We are both right and left brained and make our errors in comprehension by suppressing one over the other.
Males have always battered down the compassion of the Females. They have killed the female form of bravery and power and strength and intelligence, in favor of their own.
Simple psychotic vanity.
I mean if i went around applying to atheists their own "methods" .. if i could... make arguments against men vs women and batter them in to debilitation... just by shouting So testosterone is a blight on this world. You believe in killing others to win an argument. how logical is that?....
But ... due to the irrational vain side those people wish to ignore they would explode in rage... well justified rage because, well, my forced opinion would be wrong. But they will not realise how they are when they believe strongly that they are correct.
I am also trying to keep myself aware how different we are from each other. How we have our individual realities. And what seems clear to me can be completely obscured to another, many others. And of course vise versa.
But i do know this. There inevitably will always be a counter argument or a counter method to every which way there ever will be.
Knowledge will never declare it's end, but wisdom can be ignored completely.
I was thinking, about "expelled" in juxtaposition with Gelieo. How perfect. Against newton. You get the point don't you...
My point is that those men where correct... and even though their little ideas have been improved upon and clarified.... and in most cases complexioned.......they where correct and fought like hell to just get their observation or question explored legitimately.
So if make me bitter to hear self assured Atheists saying " if they discovered any kind of proof for god or the flood or what have you... we ALL would know, they would be shouting it from all the media." well NO DIPSHIT... they will not. How oftian does a human being consider new information. It show blind trust in the leader to think such information would be treated fairly , it CLEARLY is not. How oftian does humanity suppress individuality and try to enforce control and specific idealism? And you would have the faith that truth and fairness are at liberty to public validation?
SO if history repeats, statistically speaking the Intelligent Designers are on to something. We with the foresight that hindsight can offer can just about BET there is an "other" story to what we are.
I don't know college for this... i need... *cringe* logic.
People who HAVE REAL EDUCATIONS.... wrote books that i have read... and in them i learned that major philosophers and even Ricard Dawkins, in his book, taught me that there really is not end to an non falsifiable argument. There is no real end to the debate on god and It's proper interpretation. And there is ALWAYS ignorance.
eh...
someone please explain to me what Equivocating is....
I one made ... or failed miserably at making a point concerning the religion bashing being a red herring the issue that needs looked at is .... here is my quote.. i would not want to be accused of trying to recast my argument, or paraphrasing ...(this perfectly logical stuff is ridiculously difficult)
( i responded to this video, which is an example of the irritating argument fr0m ridiculousness that so reminds me of bigotry and fascism) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBdAHVk2feE
""""" (1) i am an avid reader of comments. I was observing the exchange between izar and darkangel.... and Dark's "debilitating" question was..." do you pay taxes that support war?" as if that makes it so he doesn't have to answer about if he believes god killed babies. And my brains keeps screaming out; but... IF DARK lives in a society, then even he is debilitated. Because we ALL PAY TAXES . therefore we all support the evils of our armies and governments.
(2) i was just waiting for someone else to bring that up. how can you accuse me of supporting the evil army, when you also pay taxes that go to support the evil army? SO the question still remains, did god kill babies? yes.. and izar could have turned it on dark by asking," do you rebel against the evil rules, have you lobbied to end evil? " etc. Face it folks humanity is not very interested in ending needless suffering. so we are all as bad as the baby killing god. Do we believe in OURSELVES?
mattb521 Reply Spam
"Face it folks humanity is not very interested in ending needless suffering. "
The most we are guilty of is omission. This is COMPLETELY different than going out of your way to kill babies and kids, stop equivocating.
"so we are all as bad as the baby killing god. Do we believe in OURSELVES?"
straw man due to your false premise. """"""
I would really like to know why i am so stupid i can't best this. "Strawman" why? Because humans are NOT blood thrisy violent evolved apes? "Strawman", because the people in power really DOOOOO care about the public well being and freedom?
Oh yeah and are you saying that non-religious men have NEVER gone out to DELIBERATLY kill babies (and towns and ideas and pretty wemon) ? Are you saying that murder is NOT a normal feature of human psychological and genetic make up and history?
If the atheist says back..." no murder is not a normal part of us. some people are defective for various reasons. " you can answer back.. "wait, isnt that the no true scotsman argument?"
LOL i had never noticed how their own methods could be turned around. (by them i mean the common person who goes about beating up belivers with their psudeo-educated indoctrinated rhetoric)
eh... i am wrong i just know i am....
they so are they i just cant frame the argument that will be heard.
Izm.
Thursday, April 2, 2009
Solveing World Problems (SWP)
This is From my compilation book "Zen Master's Joke Book." Which is not for sale anywhere and available in a nice decorative case under the dust in my room. Originally called "Essay 10" this was written circa spring 1999.
For some expansion thoughts refer yourself to blog titled "problems". There are no solutions, only appeals concerning why we need them. And i did not even mention global warming ( ahem- my latest short lived obsession)
Without further adu but surely some after adu, presenting .....
Solving World Problems ( essay 10)
World Hunger? Were it not for our greed we would stop throwing away billions of dollars of food daily and start feeding our neighbor. It is a simple solution. Feed Them! Just like someone once said " let's give jobs to the jobless building homes for the homeless, on the million golf courses of the rich."
National Debt? Small potatoes. If each multi-million and multi-billionaire would give one billion, or one million or even some incremental fraction of which their lifestyles would never miss, we would have no national debt. In fact if each of us gave a donation according to our ability, well we could sure get that thing under wraps. Of course there are the evils of the government itself and greed... But we are under the delusion that we gave up greed to save the fucking world.
Eventually, with tithes of all sorts to it, the debt would be paid off, diplomatic peace would ensue, and economy would improve. Heck better still why don't we forgive the money debt like we wish god would have done?
In fact with a little less greed maybe our economy could level out to 1950's prices, and our pay checks still be what they are. Imagine a new car costing only 3000 dollars. Your mortgage payments 150 dollars for an 80,ooo home.
With no petty or obsessive greed, we can all have the best of the good life. But that is not here and now. The Fact is, based on the premise that a fat cat with an extra million hanging around, or a couple of them, can save America and the World would be better off emotionally, and the cat fats get the popular vote while they are at it.
If hospitals and Insurance's where really about healing the sick instead of premiums and pay offs, perhaps the insurances would not have to exist, and the cure for aids can surface on the mainstream.
Global Warming simple.... Stop cutting down the rain forests .. duuuhhhhh( post edit at the time i wrote this i had No fargin Idea how bad global warming is i was a media brainwashed uneducated idiot still)
Stop seeking more more more and start being content and enjoy what you already have. It will soon all be lost anyway, by your eventual and irrevocable personal DEATH. What is a "talking computer" against a poverty stricken depressed, fearful, hopeless, violent society, that could not even purchase the thing? The more we tighten our greedy grip, the more precious life and liberty slip away. The more we find ourselves wondering what is it all about, really?
We have more than enough in our lives for convenience. What god does it serve to take our jobs ways and make us lazy, dependant and incapable of survival without convenience technologies? If we saved the money we spend on building the better mouse trap and leak proof breast implants, we certainly would be the richer for it.
Maybe not in money, but more importantly in the soul. We could even learn to build out bodies into fine instruments, grow our food in a pure clean giving earth, and be happy with who we are.
Vanity , greed, Possession and the absolute reliance on the convenient, rule our world. WHO's slaves are we?
here is a hint....
We willingly fell into the trap of technology, and human sin. And the really sad fact is that we can change this in a moment. If we where not too afraid to get off out fat assess.
Another way to say it is...
Let's live our religions for a change, and give and learn and understand. Without seeking for a return and therefore we can be blessed with true lasting peace.
~ fin ~
Well, a few things have changed for me in a decade. I have kinda accepted greed as a human thing we aren't about to give up anytime soon.
But i wanted to put that up because i had some solving world problems ideas......
well OK ONE.....
Look man we got to stop with the fossil fuels... but i was thinking couldn't we replenish the supply for a Farther off generation?
If we could find a deep cavern, or some places we could land fill with our dead, our trash, our lawn clippings, or a place to pump fresh turkey-made diesel product , into deep earth storage....... well would that have any useful goodness in it?
And well i still got nothing on global warming, just a better education about all the crap i could not even begin to solve with my measly essay.
Anyway this blog is open ended for me, in case i get anymore ideas....remember that the only stupid question is the one you don't try to ask.
See ya Around.
Hi post script.......
OK i looked about concerning Global warming, and frankly it is too large for little ole me to obsess about. But i found a series of arguements that suggest that the price for doing nothing far outweigh the price of doing something to end our c02 use.
Some people tell me if yellowstone blows all the protclastic crap would put more into the atmosphere than our cars..... some people tell me that during the age of the volcanos as much co2 was put in the air as we have now. People will make any excuess but to me they wont see how our last 200 years kinda pushed the barre on c02's.
Of course had i been back there in the begining of the industrial age, i might have argued then that we need to produce other means of energy. But then again i was not there......
Here is my link to about 6 hours of engauging and entertaining geekly argument for action.
The Manpollo Project....
http://manpollo.org/education/videos/videos.html
For some expansion thoughts refer yourself to blog titled "problems". There are no solutions, only appeals concerning why we need them. And i did not even mention global warming ( ahem- my latest short lived obsession)
Without further adu but surely some after adu, presenting .....
Solving World Problems ( essay 10)
World Hunger? Were it not for our greed we would stop throwing away billions of dollars of food daily and start feeding our neighbor. It is a simple solution. Feed Them! Just like someone once said " let's give jobs to the jobless building homes for the homeless, on the million golf courses of the rich."
National Debt? Small potatoes. If each multi-million and multi-billionaire would give one billion, or one million or even some incremental fraction of which their lifestyles would never miss, we would have no national debt. In fact if each of us gave a donation according to our ability, well we could sure get that thing under wraps. Of course there are the evils of the government itself and greed... But we are under the delusion that we gave up greed to save the fucking world.
Eventually, with tithes of all sorts to it, the debt would be paid off, diplomatic peace would ensue, and economy would improve. Heck better still why don't we forgive the money debt like we wish god would have done?
In fact with a little less greed maybe our economy could level out to 1950's prices, and our pay checks still be what they are. Imagine a new car costing only 3000 dollars. Your mortgage payments 150 dollars for an 80,ooo home.
With no petty or obsessive greed, we can all have the best of the good life. But that is not here and now. The Fact is, based on the premise that a fat cat with an extra million hanging around, or a couple of them, can save America and the World would be better off emotionally, and the cat fats get the popular vote while they are at it.
If hospitals and Insurance's where really about healing the sick instead of premiums and pay offs, perhaps the insurances would not have to exist, and the cure for aids can surface on the mainstream.
Global Warming simple.... Stop cutting down the rain forests .. duuuhhhhh( post edit at the time i wrote this i had No fargin Idea how bad global warming is i was a media brainwashed uneducated idiot still)
Stop seeking more more more and start being content and enjoy what you already have. It will soon all be lost anyway, by your eventual and irrevocable personal DEATH. What is a "talking computer" against a poverty stricken depressed, fearful, hopeless, violent society, that could not even purchase the thing? The more we tighten our greedy grip, the more precious life and liberty slip away. The more we find ourselves wondering what is it all about, really?
We have more than enough in our lives for convenience. What god does it serve to take our jobs ways and make us lazy, dependant and incapable of survival without convenience technologies? If we saved the money we spend on building the better mouse trap and leak proof breast implants, we certainly would be the richer for it.
Maybe not in money, but more importantly in the soul. We could even learn to build out bodies into fine instruments, grow our food in a pure clean giving earth, and be happy with who we are.
Vanity , greed, Possession and the absolute reliance on the convenient, rule our world. WHO's slaves are we?
here is a hint....
We willingly fell into the trap of technology, and human sin. And the really sad fact is that we can change this in a moment. If we where not too afraid to get off out fat assess.
Another way to say it is...
Let's live our religions for a change, and give and learn and understand. Without seeking for a return and therefore we can be blessed with true lasting peace.
~ fin ~
Well, a few things have changed for me in a decade. I have kinda accepted greed as a human thing we aren't about to give up anytime soon.
But i wanted to put that up because i had some solving world problems ideas......
well OK ONE.....
Look man we got to stop with the fossil fuels... but i was thinking couldn't we replenish the supply for a Farther off generation?
If we could find a deep cavern, or some places we could land fill with our dead, our trash, our lawn clippings, or a place to pump fresh turkey-made diesel product , into deep earth storage....... well would that have any useful goodness in it?
And well i still got nothing on global warming, just a better education about all the crap i could not even begin to solve with my measly essay.
Anyway this blog is open ended for me, in case i get anymore ideas....remember that the only stupid question is the one you don't try to ask.
See ya Around.
Hi post script.......
OK i looked about concerning Global warming, and frankly it is too large for little ole me to obsess about. But i found a series of arguements that suggest that the price for doing nothing far outweigh the price of doing something to end our c02 use.
Some people tell me if yellowstone blows all the protclastic crap would put more into the atmosphere than our cars..... some people tell me that during the age of the volcanos as much co2 was put in the air as we have now. People will make any excuess but to me they wont see how our last 200 years kinda pushed the barre on c02's.
Of course had i been back there in the begining of the industrial age, i might have argued then that we need to produce other means of energy. But then again i was not there......
Here is my link to about 6 hours of engauging and entertaining geekly argument for action.
The Manpollo Project....
http://manpollo.org/education/videos/videos.html
Saturday, March 28, 2009
I have obsessed long enough.
Hello gentle reader,
Well It was my hormones.
I was washing the dishes the other day and it became clear to me that i am getting to live a life where washing my dishes IS what i want to do. And i can life my life being here and enjoying it. As long as i can, of course. I don't need to spend my mind's time linked with the prevalent fear and uncertainty of tomorrow.
I can sort of detach and watch the ship wreck. Now don't get upset with me.... you know very well that that we are in fate's hands, not truly our own...unless of course we get up in unity (HAAAA) and fight the system.
I have been studying the fringe lately... looking in to conspiracies and patriotism, and Government. I think, and express myself to my friends as.... i must be absolutely insane and out of touch with reality BECAUSE.... Surely my president is speaking in well reasoned argument, and surely he had a clearly defines messages and operation, and i am sure , because he is president he MUST be concerned with the will of the people....
well........... i am just not hearing it anymore. In fact of late i have been hardly able to follow ANY logic at all from my television. In my reading, i have the same trouble. To my understanding people must be making intelligent educated sense in their comments... they must .... but well i am just not seeing it anymore.
I see few... but i guess we are simply sharing similar psychosi.....
I came across someone who thinks they are the reincarnated Jesus. I did not have the pleasure of conversing with him but i read his site. And ya know what..... i got an opinion..... but if i was to share that opinion i might be debunking myself....
His words are quite persuading, but i have had the same experiences as he has. Sure thing.... i have known myself to be the son of the living god. Or to have received sonship thru Christ. i don't go about making a big deal of it.... washing my dishes in love is of far more lasting benefit.
Man!... i wish i could get all into the guru fantasy. I'd love to bullshit a bunch of people and get lots of money.. or fame....but i think it would mar the things of my life that give me the opportunity to live with god as i see It. In my view god don't need me to do any mission. In fact i see many of the thought waves of this person dead ending at his belief in his own authority.
I was almost swayed i might have met another awakened person, using the christ as a metaphor for universal sonship, but he was not. He was looking to advance his method, and vision.
Argh! it is so frustrating to live in a world where truth and lie are so intermingled it is impossible to be purely one or the other. To live emursed in illusion and arbitrary struggle. To be distracted form simple pleasures and the movement of expression and life.
I wish i knew what planet i was from.
I don't care if i am sick and deluded i am crossing my fingers and holding my breath until 2012....
But about this Chirst guy. After i got to the part of him asking for money for his mission the shine of his glory wore off. His message was fine..."the meek have inherited the earth" but all arguments ended with his message or his explanation of his life as christ.
He was also trying to gather supporters, he call them his sons and the sons of the Apostles.
He even wrote letters of demand to the Pope and U/N. WOW!...
Yeah i have done some crazy things while in the rapture of pot induced self luminous vision but nothing much bolder than blogging.
wow.....so ... I like the radical but...not into suicide.
In fact i would not think that the returned christ would have a masochistic bone in his body. But i am sure the returned Jesus would not have to have Me follow a man, because in the books of dreams..... when "His" Kingdom comes his law will be on our hearts. No man will have to instruct another concerning god. ...
Thing about this christ guy, is he is still Authoritarian. To "work" with him you have to line up under his structure. i don't trust anyone that asks for radical allegiance. I will have my autonimity. (could not decide if the word was that or autonomy, anonymity)
And so far in my Private little life, besides the ups and downs of the economy, i have my autonimity. I have perhaps misused it or had it hijacked from time to time. And there may be forces around to extract even more of my free ability to self rule.
(((which is merely the illusion of freedom as i am free because no one has challenged, fined/removed or put personal obligations upon my current freedom. But like most Americans i am dutifully waiting for that time THAT ILL SHOOT BACK)))
And, there may be a blessed hope of humanity ending this madness, as well as there may be the end game world of little grey cubicles where we happily sit in grey suits and live our lives in simulation on the Internet and we may be happy with that or else.
Speaking of madness i am reminded of an earlier thought.
Madness.... Insanity such as the kind induced by lead poisoning.
Anyone remember, the Story about a Shipwreck in the 1800's in.... a cold place....The men where like, the first to use canned food on a ship. But the cans where lead lined. And over the course of the trip they all went mad. When they wrecked, they started to unload the ship of survival gear... so they were thinking. They saved their beds, and the captain's office, they froze to death shortly thereafter.
And this image of insanity is what i see in my world. What are we doing? I do not even need to watch the conspiracy theorist propaganda on you tube anymore i can SEE IT.
SO thus the afore rambling that i have done lost it.
I have had enough really. This is worse than losing one's religion, and seeking god alone.
My daughter, has a fear of dieing young, my son is afraid of 2012. I assure you even if i had kept my mouth shut the television has done it's own damage. I tell them how nothing is certain, the end of a calender means a new way to count time......... but then i also joke alot about it's the end of the world. SO... shame on me.
So i compensate with trying to live the philosophy of enjoying each moment and each first and each last... try to understand that these memories are important as we never know when they are over. to Live everyday as best you desire to.
I am disillusioned with the world around me. I see people pointing and others and saying that's a lie that's a lie so that's ALLLLLL a lie. i think, people cant reject everything because there is a obvious lie in it. because there is no thing what so ever in this current reality that is not harboring a lie or twenty. I hear truths and i go to hear more then the lies start to weave themselves in. As with that Christ-guy.
And in my President i hear nothing but lies.... the truths woven in are always " this will be difficult" "Suffer and sacrifice"
In that case... at least for as much longer that my family has, i am going to get some snuggles in, some communications going on... i am going to try to live more in my marriage, and focus more on the positives, explore more of self discipline....(((gulp er let's not get to much into living sheesh)))
I just need a mental flush....
I wonder what my next obsession will be?
Be blessed if you want to be
Jessy
Well It was my hormones.
I was washing the dishes the other day and it became clear to me that i am getting to live a life where washing my dishes IS what i want to do. And i can life my life being here and enjoying it. As long as i can, of course. I don't need to spend my mind's time linked with the prevalent fear and uncertainty of tomorrow.
I can sort of detach and watch the ship wreck. Now don't get upset with me.... you know very well that that we are in fate's hands, not truly our own...unless of course we get up in unity (HAAAA) and fight the system.
I have been studying the fringe lately... looking in to conspiracies and patriotism, and Government. I think, and express myself to my friends as.... i must be absolutely insane and out of touch with reality BECAUSE.... Surely my president is speaking in well reasoned argument, and surely he had a clearly defines messages and operation, and i am sure , because he is president he MUST be concerned with the will of the people....
well........... i am just not hearing it anymore. In fact of late i have been hardly able to follow ANY logic at all from my television. In my reading, i have the same trouble. To my understanding people must be making intelligent educated sense in their comments... they must .... but well i am just not seeing it anymore.
I see few... but i guess we are simply sharing similar psychosi.....
I came across someone who thinks they are the reincarnated Jesus. I did not have the pleasure of conversing with him but i read his site. And ya know what..... i got an opinion..... but if i was to share that opinion i might be debunking myself....
His words are quite persuading, but i have had the same experiences as he has. Sure thing.... i have known myself to be the son of the living god. Or to have received sonship thru Christ. i don't go about making a big deal of it.... washing my dishes in love is of far more lasting benefit.
Man!... i wish i could get all into the guru fantasy. I'd love to bullshit a bunch of people and get lots of money.. or fame....but i think it would mar the things of my life that give me the opportunity to live with god as i see It. In my view god don't need me to do any mission. In fact i see many of the thought waves of this person dead ending at his belief in his own authority.
I was almost swayed i might have met another awakened person, using the christ as a metaphor for universal sonship, but he was not. He was looking to advance his method, and vision.
Argh! it is so frustrating to live in a world where truth and lie are so intermingled it is impossible to be purely one or the other. To live emursed in illusion and arbitrary struggle. To be distracted form simple pleasures and the movement of expression and life.
I wish i knew what planet i was from.
I don't care if i am sick and deluded i am crossing my fingers and holding my breath until 2012....
But about this Chirst guy. After i got to the part of him asking for money for his mission the shine of his glory wore off. His message was fine..."the meek have inherited the earth" but all arguments ended with his message or his explanation of his life as christ.
He was also trying to gather supporters, he call them his sons and the sons of the Apostles.
He even wrote letters of demand to the Pope and U/N. WOW!...
Yeah i have done some crazy things while in the rapture of pot induced self luminous vision but nothing much bolder than blogging.
wow.....so ... I like the radical but...not into suicide.
In fact i would not think that the returned christ would have a masochistic bone in his body. But i am sure the returned Jesus would not have to have Me follow a man, because in the books of dreams..... when "His" Kingdom comes his law will be on our hearts. No man will have to instruct another concerning god. ...
Thing about this christ guy, is he is still Authoritarian. To "work" with him you have to line up under his structure. i don't trust anyone that asks for radical allegiance. I will have my autonimity. (could not decide if the word was that or autonomy, anonymity)
And so far in my Private little life, besides the ups and downs of the economy, i have my autonimity. I have perhaps misused it or had it hijacked from time to time. And there may be forces around to extract even more of my free ability to self rule.
(((which is merely the illusion of freedom as i am free because no one has challenged, fined/removed or put personal obligations upon my current freedom. But like most Americans i am dutifully waiting for that time THAT ILL SHOOT BACK)))
And, there may be a blessed hope of humanity ending this madness, as well as there may be the end game world of little grey cubicles where we happily sit in grey suits and live our lives in simulation on the Internet and we may be happy with that or else.
Speaking of madness i am reminded of an earlier thought.
Madness.... Insanity such as the kind induced by lead poisoning.
Anyone remember, the Story about a Shipwreck in the 1800's in.... a cold place....The men where like, the first to use canned food on a ship. But the cans where lead lined. And over the course of the trip they all went mad. When they wrecked, they started to unload the ship of survival gear... so they were thinking. They saved their beds, and the captain's office, they froze to death shortly thereafter.
And this image of insanity is what i see in my world. What are we doing? I do not even need to watch the conspiracy theorist propaganda on you tube anymore i can SEE IT.
SO thus the afore rambling that i have done lost it.
I have had enough really. This is worse than losing one's religion, and seeking god alone.
My daughter, has a fear of dieing young, my son is afraid of 2012. I assure you even if i had kept my mouth shut the television has done it's own damage. I tell them how nothing is certain, the end of a calender means a new way to count time......... but then i also joke alot about it's the end of the world. SO... shame on me.
So i compensate with trying to live the philosophy of enjoying each moment and each first and each last... try to understand that these memories are important as we never know when they are over. to Live everyday as best you desire to.
I am disillusioned with the world around me. I see people pointing and others and saying that's a lie that's a lie so that's ALLLLLL a lie. i think, people cant reject everything because there is a obvious lie in it. because there is no thing what so ever in this current reality that is not harboring a lie or twenty. I hear truths and i go to hear more then the lies start to weave themselves in. As with that Christ-guy.
And in my President i hear nothing but lies.... the truths woven in are always " this will be difficult" "Suffer and sacrifice"
In that case... at least for as much longer that my family has, i am going to get some snuggles in, some communications going on... i am going to try to live more in my marriage, and focus more on the positives, explore more of self discipline....(((gulp er let's not get to much into living sheesh)))
I just need a mental flush....
I wonder what my next obsession will be?
Be blessed if you want to be
Jessy
Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Feeling CrestFallen,or, Is is it my hormones?
I have been playing around on You Tube these past few weeks, and... today i found a 13's year olds sight. All decked out with anti NWO graphics, and two Political videos...
And then there crashed around me the flood of many thinks i have been hatching concerning.....
What IF.......
What IF even the 'alex jones', and the 'whistle blowers', and the growing sense of "grab your guns and prepare for heck" is PART of the orchestration?
I dont mean to have gone flip-side super paranoid... But i clearly could see.... that if this is a fad? What if The "following" these loud voices are gathering are merely....
Distracted yet still about their way out of this mess. It is like the screaming protesters are the very picture of people begging to be ruled. But then, I agree with Mr. Jefferson,
When peaceful revolution is made impossible violent revolution becomes inevitable. I also had this very clear thought of Surrender. No Conformity but surrender to fate. It is not my fault that Others didn't stop it coming... is may not entirely be my own fault that i have only recently become aware of the faint possibility that my government hates me.
There are many distractatory factors ... and *sigh* i find that now that i am up and looking about my small home city and survey my audience, i simply dont know how i can speak. I am getting groovy ideas of passive rebellion, and many of my thoughts on active rebellion involve the ludicrous fantasy of billions of humans agreeing to stop being evil, and start demanding truth and freedom.
I thought about drafting intriguing index cards for people to get aroused to the idea of self education and fighting for their human principles. I work and practice on you tube to say the wisest more profound thing i can say in under 500 characters. I can certainly tell you it is hard not to type a a few "You stupid fucks" in my retorts but i get my idea out.
But i realized that many of the people who would read my blog, my index cards, and my you tube posts , would not be able to comprehend that vocabulary necessary to convey the deepest most profound thought one can muster in 500 characters.(Though they know their spelling rules)
And if any one sees a Card with a Paragraph hand written upon it, would either throw it away to look at three words and decide , it was propaganda or a church advertisement, or someones homework, and then throw it out.
Oh... I thought of coming up with a silent rebuttal like ware a symbol for humanity like the Jews wore Stars..... but figured ... I'd look really stupid being the ONLY human near me wearing a button for humanity.
SO suffice it to say, my revolutionary ideas are ineffective. If they are cute or would have had meaning they are 40 years too late. So i clearly thought since i cant save the world and i cant save myself..... and we fucking deserve to lose everything we never fought for. well..........crestfallen.
Trying to content myself with teaching my kids to treat each other as human being because the world they will grow into will not be human to them. Try to get my kids to be wiser than to respond in hatred when they really feel hurt, because the world they are born into only knows how to make others suffer. ....
... I used to think i would not have kids, because i knew it was unfair for them 20 years ago. But i wanted to much to be a mother, to see if i could make good humans.
To try to make as much of the reality i would intend for humanity as i can, though i fail and openly explain to the children how to begin to overcome our failings thru understanding one another and compassion and simple polite consideration.
My Best To Humanity........... My prayer for our strength........ and the strength of our memories. Gawd i hope there is a second coming soon... or a photon belt of light awareness thingy... or............or... a deep awakening
....... but going by history well........ *clicks teeth and hopes for a miracle but LIVING FREE until then*
Monday, March 9, 2009
Some new agey stuff,if your into this kind of thing.
warning my spell check was being obstinte and non co-operational.
I think i am about to go on a weird loop for a minute. Here are a smacking of videos sure to intriguingly take up too much of your time, and the source material for many of the responces and thoughts that may come up in today's blogiferation.
Follow on to the other parts on your own if you are so inclined.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s867QzPCmnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T7346dFnkE&feature=PlayList&p=2788B73B87E3CA0C&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rziV5AyPh1I&feature=PlayList&p=8FDBF58E2E06B540&index=0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzMWTAPO-Q0&feature=related
I am not trying to force upon you any correctness of these things. Just these kinds of things have been my focus lately. I had already asked the world why they needed aliens so rescue or tell them the magic words. I had already rambled on about some of these very ideas.
It is weird when you come across other people seeing it simular to your self. But i have some issue with the Alien message to "help" humanity. Though he says truthful things it is mirraged by his constant eludications to humaities youth and need for his kind advice.
I got to thinking, if these other aliens who rape us via commerse but the kind of greater community the advisor...represents doesnt need our resources, then what makes it profitible for him to send us this advice? it engenders confusion... it gives hope and tares it away with the skill of Jim Jones.
I mean if I pretend myself to be a speaker to you from a higher plane... ( and i have before snicekrs) i should think that the individauls giving this "wholesom" advice are low ranked men to their people. Concidering how the other would be unseen ones have made no such sensational appence.
Basically i can be purcueded that this age is in a threshold period. i can see it clear as a bell somtimes. But yet there is not much i can do to effect it this way or that way. Gee i really do hope that our personal energy feild have some benifet..........then i think ok i am contributing to the awakening any time i am experiencing or relateing this idea i am not merely doing nothing.
But i sure can't step things up or go tell it on the mountian... or rush rush........ i believe god is in control of timeing, i have only to move properly.
there is a verse in the bible that says ....let him who is sinning sin still... i have already read into the bible that in those judgment times it would be as if no one could understand ...heart or spiriitaul language anymore.
If you know it then all you can do is know it with yourself and hopefully a few others you may brush past. I am reliseing that ....welll.............
Think about john the baptist...some nutter preaching to the barren hills out side of town. he lived his life totally emurssed in his awareness of god. He'd just be talking to god or to the world about god in his own emotion and his own words and the only way he got followers was when his words attracted listeners, and they thought his words needed to be heard by their friends.
and i do hope this Idea of Never sucombing your human freedom to the regimented complexities that are purely arbitrary speads on and takes hold and we make the oppurtunity to change something for the better.
I can say the hope and groovyness the videos can inspire is really um.... inspireing. I mean i so want to be free... but at the same time it seems the videos also paint an "us verses them" mentality, even while liberating some of US from them.
It plants the notion that we could gain something but too bad we wont because most of us are not able to see what you see. So guess what, you might have to go down with the ship.
And there is no unless........ the messages is so do or die.
he says " the greater comunity respects your individaul wisdom" yet wants to implant their own and stress it's realisation.... ( oh that reminds me so the greys want my resources why do you want my apprenticeship to you thru the great transition? you really sound like just another kid on the block.... but if this is good and if true i appreciate your reaching out... hey, we may learn alot from each other if we meet. But if your soo cool, help us kick the bad guys out then shelter us without your interference rather than watch and do nothing untill we have come accustomed to our ability to change how we do things.)
Basically since persusion methods arent going to change us... those who are awake are changed, and those who are aware of anything at all will make their proper choises at the time they are asked to. And suppsoe i keep my "enlightened love and energy" when push comes to shove my life force will be knocked off and all your pleading to humanity has lost another chance.
your message moves slower than the rate of belviers in it are or will be dieing when push comes to shove. So if there is any true respect for my individaulness or anyone elses there should be individaul recognition and i should not have to go down with the ship because i understood the precepts before joe my murderer even learned to cry.
Which also means that if 1 billion people awaken and 6 billion arent ready yet and they win the "armageddon" it would be another solar cycle to be given another chance to Acend again. Whats the point of warning us about this one if you already know that the chances are we wont make it? If it is important i think during these chances the good guys might take a few of the people desparate to exist in a more mentally stable reality with them and eventaully the rest of posterity will catch up.
Or maybe the universe is just a nasty place... if we evolve willignly , like over night by pure will... then perhaps we really, really could start fresh and wether there are aliens or not to assist us or harm us... we might make use of the confusion around us and guide the catalyst and put an end to psychotic methods.
I thought the other day how only a human could take a simple law like do not kill another, and philosphise it into murder. How it seems logical that the only way a being should die is accident, sickness, old age. Some beings in the natural world also die form defence from intrusion, and being eaten. These things could be concidered murder as their lives where taken. We also know that it is natural to kill and eat but there seems a law of proprioty that you only kill to survive. Being more intelligent, humans can learn other ways to eat, or practice repectfull diets and like other preditors and not to kill for glutony.
After that kind of murder there is killing another to enforce your will, enact vengence, or to remove an obsticle to a plan, or to remove an inconviencence, or becasue someone told you to in order to protect your idology, or becasue you where angery and your father raped you.....
these things are stealing of lives. Your not eating the dead or killing for survial.
....
wow i really lost my thoughts about the alien guy.... anyhoo..
I enjoyed a fantasy last night, one of my favorties about if i would invite three people form history to dinner who would it be and how would the evening go?
I imagined i invited Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Benjemin Franklin.
I dressed in a respectible though fairly modern dress and explained to them rudimentarily the science behind their presence in the "future".
I tell them how their advice and oppinion on these current times was needed. And i had the week prepared with various activities. the First was this lecture, followed by general questions.
I mentioned that if they had any political questions or wish to stear the conversation in that direction they try to refrain untill later because the answers are complex and need a cusion and comedy relief before we get involved.
SO i told them today we sociallise, tomarrow we have some good news, and thereafter we save america.
anyway...
i thought our forefathers would get a kick out of the play/musical 1776 and i pretended it was a very lively evening of the three men reminising and discussing their times, allowing me to ask questions and them to approach the poilicial questions.
then i skipped a few things and got to the part were Ben was up in arms and we all wrote a petition and I said to Ben that i could not replicate enough of those papers becasue i did not have a printer....
He freaken laughed at me and pulled out a stack of papers and said "then we shall write them up ourselves if it takes thee days and nights! We make our share of petition and those people who belive in the notions herein will make their own share of the mention. This was how grass roots movments grow... your interent hasn't helped a thing. "
And i fell asleep before the daydream could get detailed enough to write... feel free to steal this Novel idea...........but who knows maybe i'll write a short story of it someday.... that i mentioned the idea at THIS date is kinda like a proof of copy write... unless i read it out of the theif author's mind before they wrote it.
anyway... umm anything else?
One small thing when your in a warped state of mind from listening to too many of these conspiray distractions, and reading the 300 comments , one can have a vision that the internet is almsot like a vehicle where judgement can happen. We all can see and comment what we think, like never before in time as we know it. it is like we are all jurors in the court of man.
Powerful position humanity is in.... and also something like in Revelation about the whole world will be able to see this or that when theses things happen. but i am sure that think is not so very original it is just groovy when you catch a glimpse.
done rambleing http://www.wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/629770/Weird
I think i am about to go on a weird loop for a minute. Here are a smacking of videos sure to intriguingly take up too much of your time, and the source material for many of the responces and thoughts that may come up in today's blogiferation.
Follow on to the other parts on your own if you are so inclined.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s867QzPCmnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T7346dFnkE&feature=PlayList&p=2788B73B87E3CA0C&index=0&playnext=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rziV5AyPh1I&feature=PlayList&p=8FDBF58E2E06B540&index=0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzMWTAPO-Q0&feature=related
I am not trying to force upon you any correctness of these things. Just these kinds of things have been my focus lately. I had already asked the world why they needed aliens so rescue or tell them the magic words. I had already rambled on about some of these very ideas.
It is weird when you come across other people seeing it simular to your self. But i have some issue with the Alien message to "help" humanity. Though he says truthful things it is mirraged by his constant eludications to humaities youth and need for his kind advice.
I got to thinking, if these other aliens who rape us via commerse but the kind of greater community the advisor...represents doesnt need our resources, then what makes it profitible for him to send us this advice? it engenders confusion... it gives hope and tares it away with the skill of Jim Jones.
I mean if I pretend myself to be a speaker to you from a higher plane... ( and i have before snicekrs) i should think that the individauls giving this "wholesom" advice are low ranked men to their people. Concidering how the other would be unseen ones have made no such sensational appence.
Basically i can be purcueded that this age is in a threshold period. i can see it clear as a bell somtimes. But yet there is not much i can do to effect it this way or that way. Gee i really do hope that our personal energy feild have some benifet..........then i think ok i am contributing to the awakening any time i am experiencing or relateing this idea i am not merely doing nothing.
But i sure can't step things up or go tell it on the mountian... or rush rush........ i believe god is in control of timeing, i have only to move properly.
there is a verse in the bible that says ....let him who is sinning sin still... i have already read into the bible that in those judgment times it would be as if no one could understand ...heart or spiriitaul language anymore.
If you know it then all you can do is know it with yourself and hopefully a few others you may brush past. I am reliseing that ....welll.............
Think about john the baptist...some nutter preaching to the barren hills out side of town. he lived his life totally emurssed in his awareness of god. He'd just be talking to god or to the world about god in his own emotion and his own words and the only way he got followers was when his words attracted listeners, and they thought his words needed to be heard by their friends.
and i do hope this Idea of Never sucombing your human freedom to the regimented complexities that are purely arbitrary speads on and takes hold and we make the oppurtunity to change something for the better.
I can say the hope and groovyness the videos can inspire is really um.... inspireing. I mean i so want to be free... but at the same time it seems the videos also paint an "us verses them" mentality, even while liberating some of US from them.
It plants the notion that we could gain something but too bad we wont because most of us are not able to see what you see. So guess what, you might have to go down with the ship.
And there is no unless........ the messages is so do or die.
he says " the greater comunity respects your individaul wisdom" yet wants to implant their own and stress it's realisation.... ( oh that reminds me so the greys want my resources why do you want my apprenticeship to you thru the great transition? you really sound like just another kid on the block.... but if this is good and if true i appreciate your reaching out... hey, we may learn alot from each other if we meet. But if your soo cool, help us kick the bad guys out then shelter us without your interference rather than watch and do nothing untill we have come accustomed to our ability to change how we do things.)
Basically since persusion methods arent going to change us... those who are awake are changed, and those who are aware of anything at all will make their proper choises at the time they are asked to. And suppsoe i keep my "enlightened love and energy" when push comes to shove my life force will be knocked off and all your pleading to humanity has lost another chance.
your message moves slower than the rate of belviers in it are or will be dieing when push comes to shove. So if there is any true respect for my individaulness or anyone elses there should be individaul recognition and i should not have to go down with the ship because i understood the precepts before joe my murderer even learned to cry.
Which also means that if 1 billion people awaken and 6 billion arent ready yet and they win the "armageddon" it would be another solar cycle to be given another chance to Acend again. Whats the point of warning us about this one if you already know that the chances are we wont make it? If it is important i think during these chances the good guys might take a few of the people desparate to exist in a more mentally stable reality with them and eventaully the rest of posterity will catch up.
Or maybe the universe is just a nasty place... if we evolve willignly , like over night by pure will... then perhaps we really, really could start fresh and wether there are aliens or not to assist us or harm us... we might make use of the confusion around us and guide the catalyst and put an end to psychotic methods.
I thought the other day how only a human could take a simple law like do not kill another, and philosphise it into murder. How it seems logical that the only way a being should die is accident, sickness, old age. Some beings in the natural world also die form defence from intrusion, and being eaten. These things could be concidered murder as their lives where taken. We also know that it is natural to kill and eat but there seems a law of proprioty that you only kill to survive. Being more intelligent, humans can learn other ways to eat, or practice repectfull diets and like other preditors and not to kill for glutony.
After that kind of murder there is killing another to enforce your will, enact vengence, or to remove an obsticle to a plan, or to remove an inconviencence, or becasue someone told you to in order to protect your idology, or becasue you where angery and your father raped you.....
these things are stealing of lives. Your not eating the dead or killing for survial.
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wow i really lost my thoughts about the alien guy.... anyhoo..
I enjoyed a fantasy last night, one of my favorties about if i would invite three people form history to dinner who would it be and how would the evening go?
I imagined i invited Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Benjemin Franklin.
I dressed in a respectible though fairly modern dress and explained to them rudimentarily the science behind their presence in the "future".
I tell them how their advice and oppinion on these current times was needed. And i had the week prepared with various activities. the First was this lecture, followed by general questions.
I mentioned that if they had any political questions or wish to stear the conversation in that direction they try to refrain untill later because the answers are complex and need a cusion and comedy relief before we get involved.
SO i told them today we sociallise, tomarrow we have some good news, and thereafter we save america.
anyway...
i thought our forefathers would get a kick out of the play/musical 1776 and i pretended it was a very lively evening of the three men reminising and discussing their times, allowing me to ask questions and them to approach the poilicial questions.
then i skipped a few things and got to the part were Ben was up in arms and we all wrote a petition and I said to Ben that i could not replicate enough of those papers becasue i did not have a printer....
He freaken laughed at me and pulled out a stack of papers and said "then we shall write them up ourselves if it takes thee days and nights! We make our share of petition and those people who belive in the notions herein will make their own share of the mention. This was how grass roots movments grow... your interent hasn't helped a thing. "
And i fell asleep before the daydream could get detailed enough to write... feel free to steal this Novel idea...........but who knows maybe i'll write a short story of it someday.... that i mentioned the idea at THIS date is kinda like a proof of copy write... unless i read it out of the theif author's mind before they wrote it.
anyway... umm anything else?
One small thing when your in a warped state of mind from listening to too many of these conspiray distractions, and reading the 300 comments , one can have a vision that the internet is almsot like a vehicle where judgement can happen. We all can see and comment what we think, like never before in time as we know it. it is like we are all jurors in the court of man.
Powerful position humanity is in.... and also something like in Revelation about the whole world will be able to see this or that when theses things happen. but i am sure that think is not so very original it is just groovy when you catch a glimpse.
done rambleing http://www.wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/629770/Weird
http://www.wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/629804/can_you_find_the_typo%3F
.... First comment...... the day i wanted to comment this the internet was acting all gestapo and not leting me post so nener nener i will just put the thought here....(sometimes if i change screens and go back the print is all other languagey, weird)
I thought of a come back for Ben... i tell him that the internet has helped a great deal... now our documents dont have to be long winded and informitive, merely intrigeing. If the People are Inspired to Seek they will Find and they will act in many more ways than your large document could assemble.
Now should the doccument be condenced , maybe to the length of an index card then those who wish to be wise will research. One ought to admit, Sir ( i called him sir like like a smug little girl) it makes most sence to put the more sence into a textable size in these strange times.
Ben F. grumbled at me and before speaking Jeferson interjected...." it is a fine idea... you think my words are too, long wnded... let us see you shorten them."
We all moaned and laughed and i fell asleep again.""""""""
Saturday, March 7, 2009
Have a Happy Apocalypse
Well i did not know what to call this piece. And at the precise moment i sat to write the kids' computer game noises became most annoyingly thought chasingly loud unto my ears. but a few moments ago i was thinking, and the thinks seemed blogable.
But alas i have lost their poignancy and the babbling you are ever so inquisitively reading is my attempt to distract you while i practice using my memory to recover lost information.
Had a thought about god while i was reading a thing from a ex Christian site.... apparently it must have been soooooo good that the devil doesn't want me to remember it.... thus the loudness of children. OR.... lets see ..
if you looked for god while you where crying not to lose your faith in something your mind and heart could no longer accept.... and you begged him to show just one clue about his existence and there was no response but silence. therefore there must be no god. So you understand about String theory... or parallel universes? going on top of my head rough memory i think they are the same thing .... eh no matter really to my point. Point is, before we had developed the science
( reminds me of god as the scientist reasoning i had that i mean to get to)
....before physics, to speak of other worlds along side our own, or the time space continuum, or even light refraction for that matter would be unto them as to speak about god is to us. You complain there can be no god because there is so much evil. Yet CLEARLY it is left in OUR POWER to stop doing evil.
Perhaps God is a scientist, you as a scientist would not pluck at and seriously alter the results of an experiment would you? Not if you want the truth of the matter. We Humans tend to think we are the most important thing in the universe. But we are infinitesimally small. I presume god could pluck out those times when you got raped, even though it was already in your genealogy and intellect to not need to rape and victimize others.
There are other places in the universe. other beings. Surely other things relating to god. This is not an argument such as... well maybe god is too busy to stop the rape, he don't care enough to or he just cant.
Or look i am blaming the sinner, major cop out. NO... People who screw up always complain they didn't know why they did "it", they sort of watched themselves do "it", Or was taken up in the moment. (here presuming the 'it' is some bad evil thing) But i contest that before any evil action takes place, a mental action takes place.
Justification, excuse, a lie, and persuasion and conviction, and finally a permission. We decide at some point our action is right for us. Therefore it is not god's fault you got raped. It is sad, horrid that bad shit happens. A lot of things are bad and horrid. In physics everything is connected.....in some arguments everything that happens is seamless. A person stomping in china could presumably make earth quakes in America. Or that if you go back in time and leave or change something you alter the course of history.
In our world there have been two kinds of people. Honest and Liars. all the other subcategories of thief, violent, small minded, can fall other either side. People who try to better things for the long run, and people who seek the pleasure of the now. And apparently they have better ammo than we mindful folk because they keep winning the tide of history. SO maybe this "experiment" is one of how a race of beings overcome it's evil.
Perhaps this is one cosmic step toward advancement in the ability to even intellectually grasp the "physics" necessary to calculate god? Meaning we are unqualified to make logical arguments for or against god. If we can not conceive beyond our evils and trudge toward THAT basic ideal alone, how could we begin to find words for god?
Oh sure, ( i hear the mummer) Your arguments are good but after a while seem more like indoctrination rather than liberation. What you have so far disproved are the KNOWN arguments for and against true religion and imaginary hopes.
You have discovered the ways HUMANS manipulate the mind, and how dogmas set you up for failure. Such as if there is god, why doesn't he this or that? But that is not the only way to realize god. Apparently his assistance in this world is NOT a physical thing.
Although for some.. nay many they seem to understand how god assists in their own lives. Call it rose colored glasses, but i am not speaking of anything they have to convince themselves of, things beyond god saving their parking space. If god , who gave us a scientific mind is himself a scientist, that he hasn't scrapped the project yet would be a favorable thing to preach.
And since we are a conscious experiment couldn't we try to figure out a bigger picture? I have been thinking lately about how glorious we have been. How time has seemed to stop. The only future for us is more leisure and technology.
The maintaining of human order, and the ever so human back and forth wars and changes. It seems like all the knowledge we speak with each other is really just a regurgitation of how we interpreted what someone else said. Our sciences are still standing on Tesla's shoulders and i fear we aren't really advancing in our great human thinking....... or Maybe we are.... i mean buildings are getting better looking but glorifying things of urban satisfaction but not as spectacular as buildings that yearned for a better beyond.
There are more pills, but not enough money for more cures and discoveries. I mean i KNOW our CDC and all them medical types are discovering new things but inside i feel like well frankly i am not part of that. It doesn't seem new or as if we are advancing. But then i am sure there where people who still felt like it was the dark ages when Michal Angelo was famous.
SO i digress i might be swimming in the deep end about time has caught up with the past and isn't moving forward. But i like the idea.
Like.. there are Egyptian hieroglyphs that depict something that looks very similar to a satellite. That is like past and present are meeting up. The whole Aztec prophecy thing they are long dead but their past is touching our present.
SO if one was so mystically minded it might seem like a time stop...or loop.....or anything..... If pole shift happens.....then our calendars change... navigation changes...... the stars change..... the climate changes....... what we know might not work anymore. Pole shift is fairly certain.. but my point is that what we know now, how we move and mark time will be altered.
That means that all ancient calendars become obsolete in 2012 (presuming of course) That's something therefore a bit attractive to the idea that past and present have come full circle.
We live in times that fairly openly celebrate all the times previous. We make movies that take place in the 1800's for example, we preserve our memories our art and writings.... we continually add to our collections. We seem to enjoy the best of all the things that came before.
Except for our pesky greed violence and ignorance, we are at a perfect time for apocalypse. Look at Rome. They where the pinnacle of the times. anyway.... other thoughts approaching after bathroom break.
I been thinking about having to head for the hill country if my country freaks out. I am concerned about being wise to know when is a safe Go time, how to pack, and of course which of my books to take along.
If the country goes ape shit i am living out my life in them hills, i don't know what will happen down here. End of it all cave man mad max ville... or complete state control.... or the eventual return of sensible government.
So what is important for me to preserve? I think my history books for the old days ( 50's when they expected kids to have a useful education) My books on the Constitution, The writings of Ben Franklin. Education English, basic math, dictionary. But what about my religious books? One of each ? or my personal favorites? Definitely the favorites.
Hey i ought to hard copy my blog in case of apocalypse or Internet censorship.
(oh people are already doing that.... i am so behind the times)
Maybe a literature book or three. Of course i have to pack other house things and clothing and the food we been storing. But it is very important for me to preserve the memory America, and the Basics if not more of general education. Just as important as surviving is knowing the past.
I am so afraid that i would be of little worth in a post apocalyptic scenario. I would be the old woman back in dem hills, with a dusty moth eaten library holding some mish mash of a dame school to any traveler who wants to learn to read. Terrible fate for me... i have NO patience for teaching.But i also don't expect to be visited much since the majority of folk will be more interested in rebuilding their new life.
SOooooo I would spend the rest of my life seeking ways to permanently preserve the books just in case all becomes lost and some archaeologist would find the history interesting. I will achieve fame some how LMAO.
My latest wild fantasy is what if, wayyyy in the future my personal writings are recovered by a tech-no archaeologist, and my thoughts are considered sooo brilliant that they base a new revival of my "religion"..... well.....it was a fleeting fantasy.....
I did some research into how many end dates have been going on since the birth of recorded life on earth. And i hear many people saying see... this 2012 thing is just like all the rest. And i think maybe that's what makes it more significant. In this case it is not a small group of doomsayers and it is not merely once source of information. Not to mention the weird signs on earth that i don't think our previous naysayers imagined.
Or perhaps it is significant because regardless of affiliation with any doomsday idea, people are becoming a bit more self aware....well maybe.... I am... and a few of my friends are... and i think our vision and ability to see how we need to change the way we are doing things is in the air.
We can now realize how to be better humans, but i know reality still seems to be steam rolling toward various catastrophes, my hope lies in the aftermath of theses things. Maybe it could take root in us to change our dishonesty's and hold on to democracy and to stand firm knowing "NEVER AGAIN" which leads me to my finial thought of this morning.... a song parody
.... I am sad to be an American, where at least i think i am free. And i wont forgive the men who live who take that right from me. And ill gladly bunker down next to you and revive her still today cause there ain't no doubt i love this land God Save the USA.
Justine
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